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In Emily Hunt Kivel's 'Dwelling,' a housing crisis in New York sets off an adventure

By Melissa Gray,

Ryan Benk, Adrian Ma

Published August 10, 2025 at 8:00 AM EDT

A less-than-easy quest for a place to live after the housing crisis implodes. NPR's Adrian Ma talks with Emily Hunt Kivel about her surreal and funny debut novel, "Dwelling."

Melissa Gray

Melissa Gray is a senior producer for All Things Considered.

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Ryan Benk

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Adrian Ma

Adrian Ma covers work, money and other "business-ish" for NPR's daily economics podcast The Indicator from Planet Money.

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Isaia Huron discusses his new RnB album and how he was inspired by the church

Adrian Ma

The music artist Isaia Huron has released a new RnB album that draws on Biblical scripture and his early life experiences in the church.
'Chief of War' co-creator discusses telling stories about Native Hawaiians

Adrian Ma

"Chief of War" tells the story of the Hawaiian Islands' unification from a native Hawaiian perspective. NPR's Adrian Ma speaks with the show's co-creator, Thomas Pa'a Sibbett.
Jim Lovell, Apollo 13 commander, dies at age 97

Adrian Ma

We have a remembrance of astronaut Jim Lovell, who died on Thursday at the age of 97. Lovell never landed on the moon, but he gave us one of the most iconic moments in American astronomy.